Want to Close the Gender Gap? Start Here | Kweilin Ellingrud

We’re all familiar with the term “glass ceiling”—but what if the real issue for women in the workplace starts much earlier? In this episode, we explore the concept of “The Broken Rung” with Kweilin Ellingrud. The broken rung refers to the missed or delayed first promotion to a managerial role—a pivotal moment that sets many women, especially women of color, on a divergent and disadvantaged career path from the very beginning.

Kweilin is McKinsey’s Global Chief of Diversity and Inclusion and co-author of The Broken Rung. She brings over a decade of research—and personal insight—to our conversation, introducing the concept of “experience capital” and explaining why choosing the right first role, company, and skills can shape a more equitable and empowered future. We also unpack the power of soft skills, which are often overlooked early in careers but are essential for great leadership.

This conversation offers tangible steps for women and organizational leaders to fix the ladder—not just for themselves, but for future generations. Learn how to overcome internalized bias, build stronger networks, and steer your career with intention. If you’re ready to help reshape a flawed system, this episode is your practical and deeply human roadmap to change.

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